oilerlord
Well-known member
While it's amusing that you just heard about Ad hominem and now use the phrase in pretty much every post, you need to stop accusing others of doing it until you really understand what it means. Another member accused you of it. You just don't realize you're doing it.
Generally, an Ad hominem is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
Rather than staying on topic, you use Ad hominem. You further question my motives accusing me of being on some sort of an "agenda". That accusation in itself - is an Ad hominem.
- You attack my EV repeatedly calling it "compliance" (as if that's a bad thing) and outdated the day it was built, apparently in the attempt to make me feel bad about the decision I made to buy it.
- I list the cars I own in my signature, but you then throw it back at me as an attack on my character:
"*Oilerlord's FLEET:
2014 Mercedes B-Class Electric Drive (compliance car)
2012 VW Jetta Sportwagen (diesel) TDI
2008 BMW X3 3.0
2004 BMW 330Xi Sedan"
- You allude to, and have a misconception that I'm against EVs, and don't want people to have a great experience with them (that one actually does hurt a bit). You make me out to be some kind of monster, that I'd actually wish bad things to happen to others. I make a genuine effort to welcome others to the forum, and really do hope they have a great experience with their EV - regardless of the one they choose to drive.
"You DO NOT want people to have a great experience with EVs. All of your arguments are anti-EV compared to a gas/diesel vehicle, for which you have a fleet! Your only EV is an 2014 compliance model that was outdated the day it was released. You do not drive a long range EV and you certainly never intend to!"
- You make a strawman about the environment, and where I live (Alberta, Canada) that was directed as a further attack on my character.
"What does that tell you about the importance of people's personal statements about zero emissions and not putting more carbon into the atmosphere?"
"it is obvious you are not going to disclose who/what/why you sit in Alberta Canada"
"Here in Los Angeles, there is NO such option that I have ever found! You are very lucky. Perhaps that is because you live in a Province of Canada that is oil rich!"
I do live in Edmonton, Alberta Canada. Our province is oil rich. I don't think you meant either as a complement, but rather, something I should be ashamed of. I'm not.
If you believe I was making a personal attack by quoting you on the wife beating descriptor you originally posted, then I apologize. I wasn't. It's just that personally, it's a very serious topic, and the last thing I'd ever think about, or discuss in casual conversations like this one. This was not to suggest that you were creepy, only that your choice of words - was creepy.
Hopefully, you now understand what an Ad hominem is. You lose credibility accusing others of doing it, while it's a practice you're quite comfortable with, and often do yourself.
Generally, an Ad hominem is a logical fallacy in which an argument is rebutted by attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
Rather than staying on topic, you use Ad hominem. You further question my motives accusing me of being on some sort of an "agenda". That accusation in itself - is an Ad hominem.
- You attack my EV repeatedly calling it "compliance" (as if that's a bad thing) and outdated the day it was built, apparently in the attempt to make me feel bad about the decision I made to buy it.
- I list the cars I own in my signature, but you then throw it back at me as an attack on my character:
"*Oilerlord's FLEET:
2014 Mercedes B-Class Electric Drive (compliance car)
2012 VW Jetta Sportwagen (diesel) TDI
2008 BMW X3 3.0
2004 BMW 330Xi Sedan"
- You allude to, and have a misconception that I'm against EVs, and don't want people to have a great experience with them (that one actually does hurt a bit). You make me out to be some kind of monster, that I'd actually wish bad things to happen to others. I make a genuine effort to welcome others to the forum, and really do hope they have a great experience with their EV - regardless of the one they choose to drive.
"You DO NOT want people to have a great experience with EVs. All of your arguments are anti-EV compared to a gas/diesel vehicle, for which you have a fleet! Your only EV is an 2014 compliance model that was outdated the day it was released. You do not drive a long range EV and you certainly never intend to!"
- You make a strawman about the environment, and where I live (Alberta, Canada) that was directed as a further attack on my character.
"What does that tell you about the importance of people's personal statements about zero emissions and not putting more carbon into the atmosphere?"
"it is obvious you are not going to disclose who/what/why you sit in Alberta Canada"
"Here in Los Angeles, there is NO such option that I have ever found! You are very lucky. Perhaps that is because you live in a Province of Canada that is oil rich!"
I do live in Edmonton, Alberta Canada. Our province is oil rich. I don't think you meant either as a complement, but rather, something I should be ashamed of. I'm not.
If you believe I was making a personal attack by quoting you on the wife beating descriptor you originally posted, then I apologize. I wasn't. It's just that personally, it's a very serious topic, and the last thing I'd ever think about, or discuss in casual conversations like this one. This was not to suggest that you were creepy, only that your choice of words - was creepy.
Hopefully, you now understand what an Ad hominem is. You lose credibility accusing others of doing it, while it's a practice you're quite comfortable with, and often do yourself.
