Was able to charge to 279 now can only get to 235.

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Rob Anthony

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2020 Bolt EV. Before- I could charge to max rate of 279 miles (307 tops). My kid borrowed the car and now I can only charge to 235. Battery flow shows all full. Any ideas what he could've changed? Thanks in advance.
 
Got OnStar to help me out- didn't help much. I did find out the battery was replaced already about 10 mo. ago. I have no idea why my charging should be restricted to 232 when it used to hit 279. Could it be weather related (has been cold here in south jersey).
 
1. - It could be the colder weather, especially the recent cold snap. I'm in upstate NY, my winter range is 25 to 45% reduced. Additionally, when below 30-degress, the car's thermal management uses energy to warm up the propulsion battery. This can use quite a bit of juice. It was -5 degrees, two nights ago, my Bolt used 10kwh of electricity that night (while plugged in) to warm up the propulsion battery.
2. - Driving Style. If your son is a more aggressive driver, accelerating hard, driving faster, using the brakes or simply just doing a much greater proportion of highway driving than you normally do, this will still affect the guess-o-meter range for a bit, even after the car was returned to you.
3. - Possibly, the charge settings were changed to a different setting? In my 2018 Bolt, I only have one charge reduction setting, called "Hilltop Reserve", which limits the charge to about 87% maximum. Unless I am planning a long trip, I only charge to this 87% level. I understand that 2020 Bolt's have more variable settings. Perhaps your son adjusted the maximum charge settings?

My present, late December, cold-weather maximum range displays at about 186 miles, using the 87% maximum charge setting). In mid Fall (October), when needing minimal heat or A/C, my maximum range regularly displayed at around 280 miles, again, while charging to 87%.
 
The estimated driving range available is based on recent actual efficiency data measured by the car. Chevy doesn’t publish the algorithm as fas as I know. There is some type of weighted averaging of the actual efficiency data from climate control, traction motor energy use, and outside temperature. The history timeline of the range prediction seems to be at least the most recent 50 miles, perhaps 100 miles or more.

Change of the season to fall/winter increasing HVAC needs and/or taking a long trip at highway speed where drive motor efficiency can be as low as 3 mi/KWH could affect the range estimate for several weeks depending on how much the car is driven per day. Accidentally enabling Hill Top Reserve could also explain the range change. It appears that my Bolt only charges to about 88% of its full charge if Hill Top Reserve is on.

The change in range estimate cited above does not seem like a large enough variance to cause concern.

A better diagnostic than the dashboard display would be to measure the actual KWH delivered to the car by the charger since the previous charge session. Divide miles by KWH to get the efficiency number. This is approximate because it does not account for HVAC. I just got a GM Ultium charge station December 24 and I haven’t had a chance to install it on the wall yet. I believe the charger will be able to report some helpful statistics via the MyChevrolet app. GM put all their parts on sale 20% off which made the Ultium charger more financially attractive. One thing I can say is that the Ultium charger is very well made and quite heavy. I assume someone else makes the chargers for GM.
 
2020 Bolt EV. Before- I could charge to max rate of 279 miles (307 tops). My kid borrowed the car and now I can only charge to 235. Battery flow shows all full. Any ideas what he could've changed? Thanks in advance.
2019 Bolt Premium with 50,000 miles, a pair of Cadillac roof cross-bars, a single Thule bike channel, and a homebrew spare tire with a jack and tools. The air friction from the roof and the spare tire lit has no measurable effect on my range. ( new propulsion battery was installed with 36k miles on the original battery )

Range displayed above 260 miles is only while the car is standing still or initial (after disconnect) moving in best conditions on level roads for a short period and then the range readjusts to reality.

I'm in southeastern Pennsylvania and drive to/from Baltimore on occasion using i95.

Averaging 80 mph on i95, I get 215 miles 8 months of the year, and 145 miles in the dead of winter. These numbers take into account my turning on and off the heating and cooling manually.

Worth noting is that extreme temperatures also make for longer charging time.

-eric
 
Got OnStar to help me out- didn't help much. I did find out the battery was replaced already about 10 mo. ago. I have no idea why my charging should be restricted to 232 when it used to hit 279. Could it be weather related (has been cold here in south jersey).
I'm new to this forum, but not to EV's.
That display is called the GOM , Guess O Meter.
Yes, it has been getting colder and/or you've been driving faster. The GOM makes it's guess at today's range.
The car charges with X amount of kWh's. It can only guess at miles, correct?

It doesn't know that this day you'll load up the 'large' family and head up to the mountain tops, into a 35mph headwind, in 10° weather, with the heater cranked up to keep everyone comfortable. In this scenario you might not get half of what the GOM displayed in the morning.
 
I'm new to this forum, but not to EV's.
That display is called the GOM , Guess O Meter.
Yes, it has been getting colder and/or you've been driving faster. The GOM makes it's guess at today's range.
The car charges with X amount of kWh's. It can only guess at miles, correct?

It doesn't know that this day you'll load up the 'large' family and head up to the mountain tops, into a 35mph headwind, in 10° weather, with the heater cranked up to keep everyone comfortable. In this scenario you might not get half of what the GOM displayed in the morning.
The first EV I had was used 2011 Nissan LEAF and the driver display really was a guess o meter which gave insanely optimistic range estimates. The LEAF seemed to reset to a default set of range assumptions every time it charged, no matter what the recent driving history had been. You’d have to drive 10 to 20 miles before the range estimate displayed was close to reasonable,

Even the 2017 Bolt I have does a pretty good job of looking at driving history to given a reasonable estimate of range to expect. Of course, if you immediately hop on an Interstste at 80 MPH while previously you nlymhace done city streets, the estimate will be off. The algorithm at least gives the display as absolute best case, the expected range snd worst possible. GM did a good job and hopefully they have refined the algorithm over the years.
 
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