Tesla Model 3 - Specs released

[phatcat73]

Very impressed with the specs. You can get the 310 range vehicle for the price of a Premier and get the benefits of supercharging, enhanced safety features, better warranty, OTA updates, etc...:

http://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-specs/

Full Tesla Model 3 spec list:
STANDARD EQUIPMENT
Price – $35,000

Standard Battery

Range: 220 miles (EPA estimated)
Supercharging rate: 130 miles of range per 30 minutes
Home charging rate: 30 miles of range per hour (240V outlet, 32A)
Deliveries begin: Fall 2017
Performance

0-60 mph: 5.6 seconds
Top speed: 130 mph

Interior

15” touchscreen display
Dual zone climate control system
FM/Internet streaming radio
Textile seating
Front center console with open storage and two USB ports
Convenience

Onboard maps and navigation
Wi-Fi and LTE internet connectivity
Keyless entry and remote climate control using the Tesla app
Voice activated controls
Bluetooth hands-free calling and media streaming
60/40 split folding rear seat to maximize cargo options
Back-up camera
Auto dimming rear-view mirror
One-touch power windows throughout
Power-adjustable side mirrors
12-volt power outlet
Safety

Full LED exterior lighting
Eight cameras, forward radar and twelve ultrasonic sensors enabling active safety technologies including collision avoidance and automatic emergency braking
Six front row and two side curtain airbags
Three-point safety belts with belt-reminders for driver and four passengers
Two LATCH (Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children) attachments in second row
Electronic stability and traction control
Four-wheel antilock disc brakes with electronic parking brake
Child safety locks
Anti-theft alarm system
Tire pressure monitoring system
Warranty

Vehicle: 4 year, 50,000 mile limited warranty
Battery warranty: 8 year, 100,000 mile (120,000 mile with Long Range Battery)

OPTIONS
Long Range Battery – $9,000

Range: 310 miles
Supercharging rate: 170 miles of range per 30 minutes
Home charging rate: 37 miles of range per hour (240V outlet, 40A)
0-60 mph: 5.1 seconds
Top speed: 140 mph
Deliveries begin: July 2017
Paint

Solid Black: Standard
Midnight Silver Metallic: $1,000
Deep Blue Metallic: $1,000
Silver Metallic: $1,000
Pearl White Multi-Coat: $1,000
Red Multi-Coat: $1,000
Wheels

18” Aero: Standard
19” Sport: $1,500

Premium Upgrades Package – $5,000
Upgraded interior with additional features and premium materials.

Premium heated seating and cabin materials throughout, including open pore wood décor and two rear USBs
12-way, power adjustable front seats, steering column and side mirrors, with custom driver profiles
Premium audio system with more power, tweeters, surround speakers and subwoofer
Tinted glass roof with ultraviolet and infrared protection
Auto dimming, power folding, heated side mirrors
LED fog lamps
Center console with covered storage and docking for two smartphones

Enhanced Autopilot – $5,000
Model 3 will match speed to traffic conditions, keep within a lane, automatically change lanes, transition from one freeway to another, exit the freeway and self-park at your destination.

Additional features will roll out over time through software updates.

Full Self-Driving Capability – $3,000 (requires Enhanced Autopilot)
In the future, Model 3 will be capable of conducting trips with no action required by the person in the driver’s seat.

This feature is dependent upon extensive software validation and regulatory approval, which may vary by jurisdiction.

VEHICLE SPECIFICATIONS
Dimensions & Weight

Length: 184.8”
Width: 72.8” (76.1” with mirrors folded)
Height: 56.8”
Wheelbase: 113.2”
Track (wheel center): 62.2” front and rear
Ground clearance: 5.5”
Head room, standard: 39.6” front row, 37.7” second row
Head room, glass roof: 40.3” front row, 37.7” second row
Leg room: 42.7” front row, 35.2” second row
Shoulder room: 56.3” front row, 54.0” second row
Hip room: 53.4” front row, 52.4” second row
Seating capacity: 5 adults
Luggage capacity: 15 cubic feet
Curb weight:
3549 lbs. (Model 3)
3814 lbs. (Model 3 Long Range)
Weight distribution:
47% front, 53% rear (Model 3)
48% front, 52% rear (Model 3 Long Range)
Body

Hybrid steel/aluminum body
Drag coefficient of 0.23
Chassis

Double wishbone, virtual steer axis front suspension with coil over twin-tube shock absorbers and stabilizer bar
Independent multi-link rear suspension with twin-tube shock absorbers and stabilizer bar
Variable ratio, speed sensitive electronic power steering
Electromechanically boosted four wheel anti-lock disc brakes with electronic brake force distribution
18” Aero or 19” Sport wheels with all-season tires
Standard Accessories

240 volt NEMA 14-50 adapter
120 volt NEMA 5-15 adapter
J1772 public charging adapter
20 foot mobile connector with storage bag

 

[boltage]

Be careful with the option sheet; if you check all of the boxes, it could get up to $59,500.

 

[elpwr]

And be careful with that Bolt Premier price comparison. Your M3 will be black (only) with a black cloth (only) interior and the unattractive base wheels. And the actual Bolt transaction prices are several thousand less than MSRP - that won't be true of any Tesla.

 

[LeftieBiker]

Still, a better comparison would be a Model 3 with the color of your choice, and the Premium upgrade, for what Bolt Premieres are actually selling for. Not a bad deal. I'll bet it even has real seats. If 210 miles of range is enough, the Model 3 seems the better deal to me.

 

[elpwr]

"Real seats" remain to be determined. Tesla has had some miserable seats. My Model S with the original seats are more uncomfortable, to me, than the ones in my Bolt. These Tesla seats drew lots of complaints.

. The improved "Next Generation" Tesla seats, $2500 option, were firm, somewhat narrow, and snugly bolstered - they drew many complaints, too. And actually felt a lot like the Bolt seats. The newest Tesla Premium seats ($3300 extra) are mostly considered satisfactory.

 

[boltage]

Given the prices listed, the base model with no options is a really good deal, but if you want the options, it can get expensive quickly.

Options are usually the more profitable parts of a car price, and Tesla seems to be one of the bigger users of that pricing model (no surprise, given Model S and Model X pricing; full size pickups, Mini Coopers, and some other cars also have big ranges between base price and options-loaded prices).

 

[boltage]

Consumer Reports has a side by side comparison chart:

https://www.consumerreports.org/tesla-model-3/tesla-model-3-vs-chevrolet-bolt-ev-tale-of-the-tape/

 

[user 1034]

Also, no full federal rebate for this one. They've already sold over the 200,000 limit. Not sure what range they are in now.

Thank you for the link, it helped me solidify that I bought the correct car for me.

 

[NeilBlanchard]

The first drive reviews of the Tesla Model 3 are all glowing. The car sounds like it is wonderful to drive. The long range version has the lowest price / mile of any EV - the Bolt EV is next, and the standard Model 3 is third.

 

[IMAdolt]

Without knowing the exact size of the tesla batteries and making some assumptions (60-50kwh battery) the extended range option seems to work out to about $375-$450 per kwh. $9000 for what seems to be about a 24-20kwh upgrade? Ouch, not bitching so much as conjecturing ...... I bored and would only be interested in the model Y if it's affordable.

 

[Dgodfrey]

Also, no full federal rebate for this one. They've already sold over the 200,000 limit. Not sure what range they are in now.

Thank you for the link, it helped me solidify that I bought the correct car for me.

No they haven't sold over the 200k limit. They are about 70k short and based on the ramp up, should reach the 200k US registered Teslas about spring 2018. That would mean they have until fall 2018 to deliver as many as possible to get the full $7,500 and then it drops in half for 6 months and half again for another 6 months. So basically, for the next 24 months, owners will qualify for something.

 

[gpsman]

It has been widely reported that the base model 3 ($35,000 MSRP) costs Tesla $41,000 to make.

This is like the Black Friday "loss leaders" to get you into the store, where you will most likely buy more stuff.

The TV news here in San Jose, CA, next door to Tesla headquarters is reporting, and rightly so, that very few, if any, Tesla Model 3's will be sold at $35,000.

If you insist on ordering one, your car will be a bottom priority, and you will get a very distant build date. Tesla has no incentive to sell this car to you, and every incentive NOT to.

They MUST sell the auto-pilot, etc. that costs $500 to manufacture, at $5000 to you, to get into the black.

P.S. Everyone here considers a Bolt without a $750 DCFC as un-resellable. A base Model 3 will therefore be worse than the black plague. People will laugh you out of town.

 

[boltage]

P.S. Everyone here considers a Bolt without a $750 DCFC as un-resellable. A base Model 3 will therefore be worse than the black plague. People will laugh you out of town.

Not sure why a base Model 3 with no options would be the black plague (other than it will have black paint, since black is the only non-extra-cost color). The base Model 3 with no options is a well featured car, with 220 mile range, Supercharging, 120V and 240V EVSEs included, rear camera parking aid, and automatic emergency braking included.

But obviously, Tesla is hoping / expecting that most new buyers will go for at least some of the $5,000 luxury trimmings, $9,000 310 mile battery, $5,000 Enhanced Autopilot, $3,000 future full self-driving, $1,000 paint color other than black, and/or $1,500 19" wheels. Check all of those, and you have a $60,700 car instead of a $36,200 car (including delivery charge).

 

[DarrenDonovan]

The concern with a Tesla, is the poor build quality, and hugely overwhelmed service centers to fix said quality issues. And the months long backlog to get parts for your car due to Tesla monopoly. And that's just for the S and X, the 3 will make it much worse. Model S and X buyers are mostly early adopters and have given Tesla much slack, Model 3 buyers are more "average Joes" and will not accept excuses.

 

[gpsman]

Oh, delivery charge is extra on a Tesla? It was included in the advertised price of a Bolt.

+1 for Chevy

But obviously, Tesla is hoping / expecting that most new buyers will go for at least some of the $5,000 luxury trimmings, $9,000 310 mile battery, $5,000 Enhanced Autopilot, $3,000 future full self-driving, $1,000 paint color other than black, and/or $1,500 19" wheels. Check all of those, and you have a $60,700 car instead of a $36,200 car (including delivery charge).

 

[Dgodfrey]

It has been widely reported that the base model 3 ($35,000 MSRP) costs Tesla $41,000 to make.

This is like the Black Friday "loss leaders" to get you into the store, where you will most likely buy more stuff.

The TV news here in San Jose, CA, next door to Tesla headquarters is reporting, and rightly so, that very few, if any, Tesla Model 3's will be sold at $35,000.

If you insist on ordering one, your car will be a bottom priority, and you will get a very distant build date. Tesla has no incentive to sell this car to you, and every incentive NOT to.

They MUST sell the auto-pilot, etc. that costs $500 to manufacture, at $5000 to you, to get into the black.

P.S. Everyone here considers a Bolt without a $750 DCFC as un-resellable. A base Model 3 will therefore be worse than the black plague. People will laugh you out of town.

What's your source to the widely reported costs of the Model 3? I've not heard that. If anything, I've heard that they expect a 15% GPM on the base model 3 and 20+% with upgrades. Of course it's too soon to have any real numbers but the analysts that study these things for a living are expecting it to be on par with the 24.77% GPM that the Model S generates.

Only 6% of respondents are planning on buying the base model 3 which is available spring 18 so the TV news is correct. What's your point?

Again, what's your source that they MUST sell the auto pilot to see any profits?

Could you expand on how the Bolt without the DCFC being unsellable has anything to do with the Model 3 being the black plague? If you are claiming that the base Model 3 does not have DCFC, you would be mistaken. It comes supercharger enabled and expected to have 1000 miles/year free.

 

[oilerlord]

It has been widely reported that the base model 3 ($35,000 MSRP) costs Tesla $41,000 to make.

This is like the Black Friday "loss leaders" to get you into the store, where you will most likely buy more stuff.

The TV news here in San Jose, CA, next door to Tesla headquarters is reporting, and rightly so, that very few, if any, Tesla Model 3's will be sold at $35,000.

If you insist on ordering one, your car will be a bottom priority, and you will get a very distant build date. Tesla has no incentive to sell this car to you, and every incentive NOT to.

They MUST sell the auto-pilot, etc. that costs $500 to manufacture, at $5000 to you, to get into the black.

P.S. Everyone here considers a Bolt without a $750 DCFC as un-resellable. A base Model 3 will therefore be worse than the black plague. People will laugh you out of town.

To be fair, it was also "widely reported" that the Bolt was losing $9,000 per car, but the loss was later adjusted to $7,400.

https://cleantechnica.com/2017/05/20/ubs-chevy-bolt-drivetrain-4600-cheaper-thought-tesla-model-3-likely-profitable/

Read one of TSLA's 10Q filings. Unlike GM, Tesla is a growth play, not a company focused on profitability or otherwise concerned about being valued on a price/earnings metric (yet). It's all about growth, and putting up big numbers to support continued market confidence, and investment in Tesla. For that reason, Tesla has EVERY incentive to sell a car to you, or at least to book your order.

I get that you're a fan of the Bolt, and love your car, however to suggest a base Model 3 will be worse than the "black plague" is a little over the top.

Compared to a Bolt without the DCFC option - the base Model 3 still includes supercharging, and membership into that vast network of supercharging stations. Also, unlike the Bolt, there won't be thousands in inventory sitting unsold. There are 500,000+ pre-orders for the Model 3. Should someone opt not to buy their base Model 3 - and it suddenly becomes available - rest assured, Tesla won't have a problem selling it to someone else in the queue.

 

[elpwr]

There are lots of fully refundable reservations for Tesla Model 3. These are NOT the same as orders. When asked to pay the non-refundable $2500 order deposit we will see how many actually will buy the car. You can rest assured many of those reservations won't convert into actual sales.

There are already articles on cancelled reservation holders waiting several weeks for their refund. Bolt delivered right from the start on the advertised price while no $35K Model 3 will be available until next year.

Tesla Model X was supposed to have a 2 year wait when introduced, but only about 9 months after the slow introduction there were brand new Model X's in Tesla inventory ready and waiting for any buyer. Today there are 725 new Model X and 505 Model S in Tesla inventory waiting for buyers.

Don't be too surprised to find the wait for your Model 3 to be a lot shorter than anticipated.

 

[oilerlord]

There are lots of fully refundable reservations for Tesla Model 3. These are NOT the same as orders. When asked to pay the non-refundable $2500 order deposit we will see how many actually will buy the car. You can rest assured many of those reservations won't convert into actual sales.

There are already articles on cancelled reservation holders waiting several weeks for their refund. Bolt delivered right from the start on the advertised price while no $35K Model 3 will be available until next year.

Tesla Model X was supposed to have a 2 year wait when introduced, but only about 9 months after the slow introduction there were brand new Model X's in Tesla inventory ready and waiting for any buyer. Today there are 725 new Model X and 505 Model S in Tesla inventory waiting for buyers.

Don't be too surprised to find the wait for your Model 3 to be a lot shorter than anticipated.

It's a lot to ask someone to plunk down a sizable deposit and wait years for their car. But that's exactly what they are doing, and should tell you something. People are excited about the Model 3. They want this car, and up until recently, can actually afford to own a Tesla. Do you think even 5,000 people would have done back in 2014 with the Bolt? Not a chance. To me, $2500 isn't chump change, it's a serious commitment. Rest assured, most of those deposits will turn into orders.

It isn't fair to compare demand for a $100,000+ car that's only within reach of the few with a $35,000 car that's in reach of the many.

 

[Dgodfrey]

There are lots of fully refundable reservations for Tesla Model 3. These are NOT the same as orders. When asked to pay the non-refundable $2500 order deposit we will see how many actually will buy the car. You can rest assured many of those reservations won't convert into actual sales.

There are already articles on cancelled reservation holders waiting several weeks for their refund. Bolt delivered right from the start on the advertised price while no $35K Model 3 will be available until next year.

Tesla Model X was supposed to have a 2 year wait when introduced, but only about 9 months after the slow introduction there were brand new Model X's in Tesla inventory ready and waiting for any buyer. Today there are 725 new Model X and 505 Model S in Tesla inventory waiting for buyers.

Don't be too surprised to find the wait for your Model 3 to be a lot shorter than anticipated.

Define "lots" of refundable reservations. 40?, 400?, 4,000? Let's go with 4k, so 1%?
No doubt, all reservations will not turn into orders but you really have no idea what that number really is. It's purely speculation on your part and to what end?
I also made a mistake on my earlier post in regards to the $35k base model 3 availability which addresses your comment above. Tesla claims that the base version will be available to configure this fall so a 60 day delay is nothing compared to the 18 months most of the reservationists have already waited.
Assuming your numbers on Tesla inventory are correct, and they sell 40k-50k/year, Bolt inventory is in the thousands and they are on track to sell 15k this year. Just one dealer alone has over 200. "Paul Masse Chevrolet in East Providence, Rhode Island, advertised on its website that it had more than 200 Bolts in inventory"
Also in regards to Darrens concerns over build quality, early reviews from pretty much all the major media gave it high marks in pretty much every category, including fit and finish. Time will tell.